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This probably needs to be highlighted more.

It isn't just governments.

This is also quietly being backed by some big corporations with money .


> governments

> big corporations with money

Is there a notable difference between these two in most places? There _should_ be but in practice it feels like more and more places function closer to an oligarchy than whatever form of “democracy” they espouse to practice.


If my kid can setup a VPN, then he's old enough.

In the United States, Red/Right leaning States typically receive more federal funding than Blue States. Red States get 'propped up'.

I bet a lot of people here criticizing that EU funding went to Poland are typically Right Leaning, and think they are making a some killer point about socialism, when back home they are also taking in the hand out money.


This is a poorly supported take, once you factor in the productive parts of the economy.

If you have a lot of farmland in a red state and the profits are reported in a blue state, then counting the reported profits on the corporate balance sheet will give a distorted picture of what is happening.

Look at e.g. General Mills, based in a blue state, but a great deal of what they buy are ag inputs from red states.


> Look at e.g. General Mills, based in a blue state, but a great deal of what they buy are ag inputs from red states.

Are the businesses from who they buy ag inputs in the red states not compensated at market rates for the raw materials they provide?

Do the red states also not receive massive taxpayer funded farm subsidies for the corn and wheat they grow from the federal government?

Minnesota's GDP is higher because it has a larger population and a more diverse and greater value-added economy than it's its ag focused neighbors.

It's GDP per capita is actually lower than its very sparsely populated neighbor, North Dakota, but the economic power of a jurisdiction ultimately comes from its population*productivity.


Wouldn't the red states be profiting off of blue states in your example? Why would General Mill's purchase of red states' outputs not show up as profits in the red states? This makes no sense.

That is a good point.

But wouldn't the farm, selling to the big corp, realize the profits in their own state? Or are you saying the farms are owned by General Mills?

I was under the impression that most of the farms are owned separately and sell to General Mills.


I don't know much about Poland

Why was other comment flagged and dead???


The guy has a ghost ban on Hacker News. He was banned for some other comment. He doesn't know that no one else can see his post.

Probably not hellbanned, maybe spam filters gone wrong. I vouched them back into the land of the living :)

Thank you :)

My best guess is people think it's AI written? I mean, I kinda get such vibes from it, but it (IMO) could also be human written.

"Society doesn't owe anybody anything. So who's to say when you find something else to do, it will pay enough to live?"

I don't think Society means what you think it means.


"(GDP) measures the total market value of final goods and services produced"

It can be circular.

MS invests 5 billion in OpenAI.

OpenAI invests 5 billion in MS.

Do we have 10 billion now?


Usually when something like this is reported, it is because of some other milestone.

Like, they have 6 weeks, on hand, in tanks already delivered.

But, all of the ships in-bound are now done.

After the war started, there was a record number of ships, already filled, already in-transit. But now they have all reached their destinations. So there is no more incoming.


Yeah. On the surface it sounds crazy.

Everyone always says as if it is obvious, go back in time and kill Hitler. That this would be a overwhelming good.

But, if you go back, and he was a baby. At that time, there is no indication of evil, so you would be a baby killer, but for good. You would look crazy.

So, extrapolate that to present. Killing someone today, might also be seen as a universal good, but nobody would know it yet.

Is todays crazy, really crazy? or just not obvious yet. And some would say, it is pretty obvious.


There is value in the "eating your own dog food".

If internal staff aren't happy with the tools they build, typically that should drive improvements to their own tools


Think this is very good article, and good to highlight with a link to an older one.

The Moloch article from Scott Alexander. Covers the broader themes.

Software just seemed immune from it for a couple decades, but Moloch caught up to it.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/


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