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I think the next in line is her brother, who is the president of the National Assembly (Congress).

Venezuelans are cheering.

And what are they going to to do against the militias and military that are loyal to Maduros political party?

I'll tell you. Nothing. They are going to do nothing. Because they can't.


We’ll see about that. In the meantime I get to see Maduro handcuffed and blindfolded on a US warship heading to NY.

Life is good.


>> And what are they going to to do against the militias and military that are loyal to Maduros political party?

> We’ll see about that.

This seems hand-wavy - like you're not aware of any plan for the future and that you're comfortable with that. If I'm mistaken, what specifics have you heard?

> In the meantime I get to see Maduro handcuffed and blindfolded on a US warship heading to NY.

This sounds like great joy to have working to install leadership that won't massively harm VE (for once).

But this joy would also sound ominous in the absence any such work - like you're being distracted while something awful is put in place.

At the least, I'd check out this post with news links - that this US admin has designs on VE's oil facilities.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46473348#46478023


Life is good? Your feeling about the goodness of life depends on if a powerful country captures the leader of another country?

Whatever you think of the morality and ethics of the man, the precedent, the outcome, the extrajudicial action is opening the door for less law and order in the world.

This sets a precedent that the US is back to regime change and world policing, and that went swimmingly in the past as we all know.


Are you under the impression that Maduro is a fairly and lawfully elected leader? Because he absolutely is not.

That's true. But a similar case could be made for many other world leaders, they just don't happen to be sitting on top of a lot of oil and/or are able to credibly defend themselves. This was never about Maduro or democracy.

A murderer dictator was brought down. We shall celebrate, yes.

approx 8 million, and we are not allowed to vote, which is against the constitution.

The refugee crisis was already ongoing precisely due to the dire situation of Venezuela. They stole the 2024 election as well, the opposition won BIG.

No, they lost the 2024 election by a landslide, it’s one of the reasons of what happened today.

> No, they lost the 2024 election by a landslide

I don't belittle what VE has gone thru and I accept that something awful for you has been removed from the board.

> it’s one of the reasons of what happened today.

I would clarify that the current US leadership has little/no history of taking actions that are genuinely for others' welfare. The admin continually claims it is doing good. It's a continual stream, one after the other. By the time one is debunked (and they are), ten more are issued.

This method is dividing many Americans (by design) between those who believe the stream of claims and those being overwhelmed by the mountain of debunked falsehoods.


Maybe. But there is still popular support; and some of the elections Chavez won, he actually did win.

Irrelevant, Chavez died 13 years ago, a lot has happened and changed. Maduro lost the last election hard, he wrecked the support he inherited back then

True, but that is irrelevant today, they squandered that support and people want a change now.

imo this was negotiated, we need more details

Good riddance! But there are other key figures that need to be captured.

regime change starts at home

It wasn’t for a lack of trying. The dead and imprisoned for it are evidence.

No doubt. In the US the phrase has a strong undertone of "we need to change the regime that's undertaking this latest foreign regime change".

8 million is a lot in a country that around 30 million population.

Plus the opposition won the 2024 election by a landslide, but it was stolen by Maduro.

The overwhelming majority wants the regime to end.


Word, the regime needs to go. That’s what most outside don’t understand.

8 million of us had to flee the country.


There's no more proof that any Venezuelan election's results has been tampered with than with any US election. The state of Venezuela's state is sad, and so is the fact that millions of people have felt forced to flee the country due to economic uncertainty. But this is probably a mix of culture, ingrained corruption and US blockage for decades.

It’s completely unrelated, I find a bit insulting that even our own wrongdoings have to be blamed to the US. Not everything wrong that happens in the world is caused by the US, the regime has been very capable of their own wrongdoing and mismanagement through the past couple of decades. Just look up the UN reports of human right abuses committed by the regime, thousands killed and tortured.

> There's no more proof that any Venezuelan election's results has been tampered with than with any US election

This is false (if by “proof” you mean “evidence” and not absolute certain knowledge).

Here’s how Wikipedia describes the election results:

US 2024 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...

> The Republican Party's ticket—Donald Trump, who served as the 45th president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, and JD Vance, a U.S. senator from Ohio—defeated the Democratic Party's ticket—Kamala Harris, the incumbent U.S. vice president, and Tim Walz, the incumbent governor of Minnesota.

US 2020 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_elections

> The Democratic Party's nominee, former vice president Joe Biden, defeated incumbent Republican president Donald Trump in the presidential election.

Venezuela 2024 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_e...

> The election was contentious, with international monitors calling it neither free nor fair,[4] citing the incumbent Maduro administration's having controlled most institutions and repressed the political opposition before, during,[2][5] and after the election. Widely viewed as having won the election, former diplomat Edmundo González…


We tried every peaceful way to get rid of the regime, they stole the elections, commit multiple human rights violations, the list of crimes is too long. The majority of Venezuelans wanted this to finally happen.

Really??

Yes, we won the 2024 presidential election by a landslide only to be stolen by Maduro.

So please get rid of the regime, the majority of the country wants to go back to democracy.


I think the democracy you want is not the same as the invaders want


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