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Yeah, that reply is a mildly infuriating, in view of what they're planning.

Well, no... I use maybe 1/5 to 1/3 of may month allowance on Assistant. It's nice to have. And I subscribed to Kagi also because of it. So, the Assistant going away would mean my expensive Duo subscription going away as well.

That's why I don't think anybody is going to pay for the Assistant alone.

Well, good for you, I guess. But for the rest of us who use the Assistant this would be a net downgrade, AKA paying the same for less.

Wasn’t it also a free upgrade when it launched? They didn’t bump the price of their search plans when they added Assistant.

I wish they’d separated them from the start because I knew immediately that my subscription (where I don’t use Assistant) was going to subsidise subscriptions that do. Now I don’t know what the right thing for them to do is, given they’ve been marketing Assistant as a feature.


Same here. I'd definitely drop the subscription immediately, unless the assistant was super cheap, like $1 or $2 more which is the most I'd pay for kagi personally.

Is it any better than Google's or the one in DDG? Those things are wrong most of the time for questions that couldn't have been answered by looking at a few words in the summary of the very first search result anyway. I find they only save me time if what I was searching was so trivial that it doesn't matter at all if it's wrong ("How old is such-and-such actor?") and I didn't really even need to search it in the first place. Otherwise, if it actually matters, I still have to check the sources, because no matter how confident the answer looks, it's wrong way too often to rely on it.

(Gather 'round, kids: used to be, questions of utter trivia like the exact ages of actors or whatever didn't even take root in our minds in the first place, we didn't even feel the itch to answer them to begin with, because it was far more effort to answer them than it was worth, unless it was a topic you cared enough about to have a bunch of books about it on-hand, so such questions would usually fall out of our brains before we even consciously engaged with them. Our heads were a lot less noisy then. It was very nice.)


I've never user Google or DDG assistants, tbh. My use for Kagi's assistant is for stuff related to work. I'm a university prof., so it "saves me a bit of time" while checking for errors in assignments, clarify concepts to explain to students and so on. I almost never use it to search for stuff.

For the rest of us that deeply distrust and despise the anti-ethical and wasteful assistants is an upgrade.

You haven't thought too hard about it then; Kagi is (in part) looking to get better margins on its AI spend here.

Friendly reminder that you're not forced to use it. "I despise soccer, so soccer should disappear".

You still have to live in a world where LLMs exist and are based on the stolen labor of millions of people and are actively destroying the livelihood of people, our environment and democracy.

Again, right now the assistant is entirely optional. Oh, summarizer and translate are base on the same models, by the way.

Soccer is not destroying the planet and making basic computer hardware unaffordable.

You're looking at the finger and missing the Moon.

I think a more fair analogy is "I despise soccer, so the specific cable package I choose should not include it".

I am interested in your manifesto

From the thread on kagifeedback.org:

"As we prepare to launch Kagi Assistant as a standalone subscription, we're considering changes to how it will be available on the Pro and Starter plans (Search subscriptions).

Currently these plans let you use the Kagi Assistant each month up to the AI cost value included in your subscription, similar to how it works on Ultimate. The change we're consideringn would turn this into more of a trial where you'd still have access to the Assistant, but only up to a fixed usage cap. Once you hit that cap, you'd need to subscribe to either the Ultimate plan or the Kagi Assistant's own subscription to keep using it (same mechanism we already have for Search)."


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Guess that serves as a signal that this move from Kagi isn't so bad, if typos is the biggest and greatetst criticism you can come up with as a reply.

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Ah, but only a truly great writer could have come up with:

> Start reading books or you're going to look stupid to the people around you

Wherein the prose wasn’t at all sloppy, the tautology was certainly intentional; the implied audience of “look stupid” could be to people entirely absent of the vicinity!


Make grand assumptions about other HN users without knowing anything else but their HN comments, I betcha you won't find a better past-time for internet strangers :)

Even after you pointed out specific mistakes, I fail to understand how the writing is indicative of AI over-reliance?

Just discovered you can type any language in the drop down menu... I tried with a dialect from my region (Italy) and it's working beautifully :-D

This is actually great, lol.

Link is in spanish. Here it goes a translation

https://bandaancha-eu.translate.goog/articulos/laliga-telefo...

FYI, Cloudflare already is almost entirely blocked in Spain during soccer, so this is a "smart" move to make it difficult for people to watch pirate IPTV streams...



Learn to read Spanish already…


I'm at my second E-series ThinkPad right now. My "old" one, from 2018, is still rocking and my son is happily using it.

Reason for the E-series: cheaper than T, good keyboards, easily serviceable/expandable and the feeling that it's build quality is a bit better than that of other laptops of similar price. Overall, very happy with them.


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Probably so. I'm in academia as a teacher and as a researcher. I like teaching and I like research. If I were "rich" I'd probably do both things with a much clearer state of mind.


Not filling grant proposal would be amazing.


Yup. In may case, if I'm lucky enough I may get a permanent position relatively soon. That would surely improve my productivity a lot. Finger crossed.


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