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I'm going to disagree: it definitely felt self-aware without being full-on satire (and there's was more than a few obscure in-jokes in there too).

> wonder if there are video editting competitions?

Yes - but they've turned into something I'd really rather not watch: https://www.opus.pro/agent/human-creator-vs-ai


> I have hope that LLMs might break some people out of their echo chambers

Are LLMs "democratized" yet, though? If not, then it's just-as-likely that LLMs will be steered by their owners to reinforce an echo-chamber of their own.

For example, what if RFK Jr launched an "HHS LLM" - what then?


... nobody would take it seriously? I don't understand the question.

> I really doubt the user data for a smart tv user is all that valuable.

According to a 2021 article about Vizio's user-hostile advert display devices, they boast of an average revenue of $13/yr - up from $7.30/yr, though consider this was 2020 when more people were at-home watching TV instead of going outside, meeting people, touching grass, the usual.

https://deadline.com/2021/03/vizio-smart-tv-streaming-ipo-12...

> A range of advertising opportunities drive revenue, including revenue sharing with programmers and distribution partners as well as activations on the device home screen. In the fourth quarter of 2020, the company said average revenue per user on SmartCast was $12.99, up from $7.31 in the same period of 2019.

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If you'll allow me to make an arbitrary assumption that a new TV set bought today will last about 10 years, then $13/yr means the advertising revenue implies Vizio has reduced the sale-price of their TVs by $130 compared to before we had no-opt-out advertising displayed on our own property as a condition for the privilege of using said device.


I think the problem might be generational… the only people who know - or care - about the HIG are older millennials


Yes, the newer generation is used to computers being an inconsistent mess and slow. Only the the technically interested people know that it doesn't need to be this way. (And thus don't feed up with this and use Linux or *BSD :-) ).


yearning for old apple and order, current times and genz are more chaotic. not sure if it's generational, old apple was obsessed about design, now HIG is mostly optional. they now even use hamburger on websites which was a big no in the past.


HIGs change. what made sense for people who first used computers in their 30s might not make sense for people which used them since 7


I think you’re underestimating how many people grew up with GUIs 30-40 years ago.


MS Office’s fully customisable toolbars, complete with built-in icon editor.

…ripped out when the Office Ribbon was introduced in 2007; the now-limited customisation is now considered an improvement because of the IT support problems caused by users messing up their own toolbars.

I mean, yes; but that’s what Group Policy is for! And the removal of the icon editor is just being downright mean to bored school kids.


> how do you enable power users to learn more powerful tools already present in the software?

On-the-job-training, honestly; like we've been doing for decades, restated as:

Employer-mandated required training in ${Product} competence: consisting of a "proper" guided introduction to the advanced and undiscovered features of a product combined with a proficiency examination where the end-user must demonstrate both understanding a feature, and actually using it.

(With the obvious caveat the you'll probably want to cut-off Internet access during the exam part to avoid people delegating their thinking to an LLM again; or mindlessly following someone else's instructions in-general)

My pet example is when ("normal") people are using MS Word when they don't understand how defined-styles work, and instead treat everything in Word as a very literal 1:1 WYSIWYG, so to "make a heading" they'll select a line of text, then manually set the font, size, and alignment (bonus points if they think Underlining text for emphasis is ever appropriate typography (it isn't)), and they probably think there's nothing more to learn. I'll bet that someone like that is never going to explore and understand the Styles system on their own volition (they're here to do a job, not to spontaneously decide to want to learn Word inside out, even on company time).

Separately, there are things like "onboarding popups" you see in web-applications thesedays, where users are prompted to learn about new and underused features, but I feel they're ineffective or user-hostile because those popups only appear when users are trying to use the software for something else, so they'll ignore or dismiss them, never to be seen again.

> By corollary, how do you turn more casual users into power users?

Unfortunately for our purposes, autism isn't transmissible.


Clearly advocating for the continued use of paper checks


Hacker News really is full of luddites now.


> rubbish suggestions from poor LLM models.

We get rubbish suggestions from SOTA(tm) LLM models too, y’know.


You can still use the older ML-model (and non-LLM-based!) IntelliCode completion suggestions - it’s buried in the VS Installer as an optional feature entirely separate from anything branded CoPilot.


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