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It’s not that it can’t do it, it’s that it’s against the terms of service to use it for video.


Isn’t that for their CDN, rather than Zero Trust? I don’t think they even know what traffic is going over Zero Trust.


> it’s against the terms of service to use it for video

It for any large files. They want to limit bandwidth usage but not blanket limit everyone. One user using Plex of Jellyfin probably doesn't move the needle.


You can't play corporate videos over Cloudflare Warp? Where is the line drawn?


I think they don't want you using a boatload of bandwidth, since data proxies through their servers.


Yes and that's what people are criticizing - it's just an arbitrary and thus very bad rule. Completely unrelated to CloudFlare, I streamed a single TV series from a friend's plex account 1-2y ago, that's less traffic than some of my friends use in 2 weeks.

I'm not saying they can't have that rule, it's their infra - I'm just saying that "a boatload of bandwidth" can be anything, depending on who you ask.


FWIW, even if it’s against the rules I have been using Cloudflare tunnels for my Jellyfin server for months and I haven’t even gotten a nastygram yet.

I think it’s more of a “we reserve the right to…” situation than anything else.


> the most unethical company that ever existed

Maybe in the tech world, but in the real world there are companies such as Nestlé out there competing for this title.


Not even in the tech world. Microsoft did more than its fair share of cutthroat business practices, but there are tech companies out there that are quite literally thriving on worker exploitation.


Amazon?


Damn near any gig economy company.


I like the idea of using the new app, but in the browser I can use ublock to remove the weird "Inbox Zero!" celebration. Is there any plan to allow that kind of empty inbox configuration in the app?


Safari does support ad blocking extensions.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wipr-2/id1662217862


right, also brave and kagi and vivaldi all have blocking built in. Adguard and wipr work pretty well for stock safari.


As a dotnet developer all my code these days is run on Linux.


If revenue doesn't catch up with the cost of developing and running these huge LLMs then the only way to avoid an AI winter is to find a way to make them way cheaper to develop.


Inference costs are largely break even and profitable. Now yes there is absolutely questions on the training side.

You could turn off the switch today though and most of your leading models could keep the lights on.


I keep seeing everyone guessing what the margin is on inference. You say that it's largely break even. We have this person in the thread claim 80% margin (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45462442).

These numbers are complete make believe.


Why would they be make believe? I am generalizing across multiple companies and simplifying it as much as possible as we won’t know all the cost buckets but we do know at current costs the bare inference cost of keeping the machines running is being covered.


That's what he said, you aren't applying this change to your paying customers because you know what a shitty decision it is and only free users will put up with it.


free users get the same value as paying customers...JetBrains can do as they please to get some value out of these users. Don't like it, pay up...I'm a long time JetBrains customer (since 2005). I've never asked my employer to pay for my licenses because their tools make me a better developer than any other options on the market.


Have you considered some kind of demo level and pay to unlock the full game?


"That’s a really sharp question."


But if Meta believe it's a bubble then why not let the competition continue to waste their money pumping it up? How does popping it early benefit Meta?


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